NINETY
MINUTES INTO A SWEATY set before a jam-packed house, Rory Gallagher gives
his band a break and straps on an acoustic. Coricidin bottle clenched-fist
roar as he slides into the opening riff of Robert Johnson’s “Walkin’ Blues.”
After tunes by Leadbelly and Blind Boy Fuller, he returns with his band
for three electrifying encores. It’s been six years since Gallagher (pronounced
galla-her in the Gaelic, mind you) toured the U.S., and he’s making up
for lost time by covering a broad spectrum of songs ranging from his Taste
records in the ‘60s to selections from 1990’s Fresh Evidence [IRS]. We
spoke backstage in Santa Cruz, California.
You’ve always seemed
to gravitate toward roots American music.
Even though you develop
as a player over the years and become influenced by different things, you
have to keep to the heart of what you started with, that initial vision
of music. I grew up in Ireland where folk and traditional music is very
close at hand, but I really wasn’t turned on until I heard American music
via Lonnie Donegan, who was doing Woody Guthrie songs, Leadbelly. Of course,
I heard the early rockers—Elvis Presley, Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry. So
it was a mixture of folk, blues, and rock from America. I just followed
it through and eventually learned who’s who in the spectrum of things,
the prime movers and the copyists. In early blues, for instance, everyone’s
stating that Robert Johnson is the virtuoso of that era, but Son House
was very important at the time.
All young rock and blues players should dig deeper, back beyond the obvious big blues stars like B.B. King and Buddy Guy, who are great. I’m very interested in the country blues and electrified country blues, such as by Big Joe Williams. I also like all the slide players from Earl Hooker through Muddy Waters. Robert Nighthawk is a favorite of mine, and I eventually discovered Tampa Red. That lick that Muddy Waters is known for came from Tampa Red. So this folk music tradition of passing on, picking up and stealing goes on like mad. If I'm doing a blues number, I can do it very traditional if I want to; I can also add my own twists to it.
That's clear in
several cuts on your new album.
Yeah. "Empire State
Express," for instance,was done in one take on purpose. I do it close enough
to Son House's style, but to sing it in the tempo, I had to slightly adjust
the rhythm. It's a great but very overlooked song in open- G tuning [D
G D G B D, low to high]. "Ghost Blues" is quite traditional in its approach
with the National; it's also tuned to open G. The guitar in "Middle Name"
is more like a Slim Harpo record, so there are all kinds of references.
Besides a few rock tracks, the rest are very much in the blues field. The
album before, [1989's] Defender, had a lot of blues elements as well, but
it was more of a rock production, whereas with this new one we didn't overdo
the compression or the cleaning up. We left it fairly wooly and casual,
which suits the songs. I hope people catch up on Defender, because it's
still quite current in our set, even though we move the repertoire around
every night. Nine times out of ten, I work off the top of my head and we
move from album to album.
You're still using
some of your old equipment.
Yes, even though
some people have this image of me as being so purist that they don't even
want me to use electricity! My old Strat that I've always played is super-glued
together. It's November '61, and I got it secondhand in '63. It was the
first Stratocaster in Ireland, apparently. I also used a '57 Strat on the
album. But for some of the strong rhythm guitar parts, I used a small Gretsch
Chet Atkins, the Les Paul-shaped one [Model 6121], or a Gibson Les Paul
Junior. Even though I'm identified with the Strat, having Strat rhythms
and leads can be a little one-dimensional, unless you're in the Hendrix
situation. It's nice to have alternative guitars to broaden the sounds.
What's my favorite amp? It's a battle between the Vox AC-30, which is my
first amp, and the 4x10 Fender Bassman, although I love the little Deluxe
as well. I have played Ampeg Vt-44s, which are very nice, and over the
years I've used Marshall 50-watt combos in conjunction with the Fender
or the Vox; they're very good for volume and bite. But the warmth of the
Fenders and the character of the Voxes are pretty hard to beat.
What should a Rory
Gallagher solo be about?
I try to split the
difference between being fairly clever and technical and still primitive.
I used to always go for live leads-mistakes and all-just for feel. Now
if a certain song needs a very melodic solo, I'm prepared to work on it
over and over. But I try not to get in the habit of dropping-in, because
it's very tempting to get the perfect solo. As a rule, I try to keep a
grip on technology so it doesn't take the human factor out of it.
Describe your slide
approach.
Pick and fingers.
I also vary the slides. Sometimes I use a Coricidin bottle on my ring finger,
sometimes my small finger. I use a brass slide if I'm playing a National.
If I'm playing a straight [standard tuned] electric, I use a steel bottleneck.
The sound of glass is more smooth and sweet. The brass or copper is very
harsh-if you want to get the Son House sort of attack-but it's almost too
harsh all the time. Steel is a good compromise and socket wrenches are
ideal. I have a 5/8th or 7/8th, because John Hammond told me he was using
one, and Lowell George had one as well. They're fantastic, but you really
need very heavy strings. And if you're playing more than a couple of numbers,
they do wear your small finger down, and you don't want to be tiring your
hand. I use a Gretsch Corvette for slide in open G or A [E A E A B# El,
and that's got strings from .013 to .050. The action on my regular guitars
is quite high and the strings are .010 to .044, so it's okay for slide.
I can cope with both.
Why have you waited
so long to tour here?
We went back after
the last American tour in '85 and just got stuck in Europe touring and
recording. We were trying to sort out the right record deal, and I don't
know where the years went. We got irritated, too, because we were on a
couple of big nationwide tours with stadium rock bands, and we were badly
treated in some cases with monitors, amount of stage room, lights, and
time onstage. It wasn't so bad when we were on the same bill as ZZ Top,
but we were also on bills that were totally alien to our kind of stuff.
I'd end up feeling I'd wasted a couple of weeks of my life. To make matters
worse, I developed a flying problem; I'd had a couple of bad flights and
I got my Buddy Holly complex. It got so bad I couldn't even fly to Ireland,
which was only an hour away from my home in London. It was mainly claustrophobia
rather than a fear of death, but it was quite an ordeal for me. But my
prayers have been answered, and so far so good.
What is the status
of your past releases?
All of my old albums
are coming out in the next year or two on IRS, EQ'd for CD. We're going
to do a boxed set, too. With this absence behind me, it will be great to
have all my old material out again. People can look at it and see if it's
held up in court.
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